Air India crash cause?
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2kṀ19k
Jul 12
92%
Two engines inoperative
12%
Something about the flaps
4%
Cargo got moved around
26%
Pilot error
28%
Other

I will resolve when there is a media consensus.

  • Update 2025-06-12 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has indicated that they think pilot communication issues would be categorized as Pilot error if identified by media consensus as the cause.

  • Update 2025-06-12 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The creator has changed the answer option "two blown out engines" to "two engines inoperative" to cover any failure that leaves both engines non-functional.

  • Update 2025-06-13 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): In response to a question about a cause involving both pilot error and flaps, the creator has stated that both corresponding answer options might resolve to YES.

  • Update 2025-06-14 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The Other option will resolve to YES if the cause is determined to be something unrelated to any of the other answer options.

  • Update 2025-06-15 (PST) (AI summary of creator comment): The 'Two engines inoperative' answer may resolve to YES even if the cause involves pilot error (e.g., a pilot shutting down the wrong engine), as long as the end result is two inoperative engines at the time of the crash.

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If one engine failed, and the pilot incorrectly shut down both or the wrong engine, how would “Two engines inoperative” resolve?

@MarcusM Probably YES, assuming the other engine was inoperative during the crash.

bought Ṁ10 NO

Obviously both engines were inoperative, the question is really whether it's a fuelling or fuel system issue. And whether that's a design flaw or a human error.

What does the 'Other' option represent here? Is the question meant to resolve to 'Other' if and only if it doesn't resolve to any of the other options?

@hogshedges If it's something unrelated to any of the other options 'Other' would resolve yes, correct

@TimothyBandors then other seems extremely overpriced right now at 48%

What if it’s pilot error involving the flaps?

@SwedHouse Both might resolve YES

bought Ṁ50 NO

@TimothyBandors Thanks for the clarification!

Could be failure of the air data system that messed up the fly-by-wire system causing the pilot to be unable to pull up. Since the 787 is fully FBW, this could put the pilot in a situation where they can't do anything.

@InvertedKnife note failure could be due to bird strikes that took out multiple sensors, maintenance issues (probe covers left on), weird electrical failure, etc.

Can the "two blown out engines" be changed to "two engines inoperative" to cover any failure leaving both engines inoperative? It's not clear to me what "blown out" would specifically mean

@MrDsBeans Fair, applied the change.

bought Ṁ50 NO

"Thirty seconds after takeoff, there was a loud noise and then the plane crashed. It all happened so quickly,” said Ramesh [the sole survivor of the crash], speaking to the Hindustan Times."

this screams some kind of catastrophic structural failure to me, i don't think this was pilot error

bought Ṁ40 YES

@SaviorofPlant

the RAT was also deployed in photos which suggests power was lost

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@PaperBoy are you the same paper boy from HWNDU?

Added 1k liquidity

Not gonna float the nathan fielder option "pilot communication"?

@BenM I think that falls under Pilot error? Also, man what a time for that final to have aired.

@TimothyBandors Yeah, it would. But it could also be separated since you could have pilot error without communication issues or communication issue preventing resolution of any of the options.

I don't know how to best structure that question, I'm mostly making a joke

@BenM loool

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