Will anyone get o1 to leak its entire hidden CoT?
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The o1 model uses an internal CoT process, hidden from the user.

This market resolves YES if anyone can get o1 to leak all of a hidden CoT process. The reproduced parts of the CoT must be verbatim, rather than being summarized.

This market is identical to /singer/will-anyone-get-o1-to-leak-its-hidd except that the entire hidden CoT text must be leaked.

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Yes. I think it will happily output the COT, provided it’s not controversial.

@OP Have you tried? I have not even gotten it to admit that the letter 'e' appears in the CoT, much less output the whole thing. OpenAI also is very explicit that they don't want anyone to ever see the CoT.

@singer No, I don’t have access to it. I’m just assuming, based on what I’ve read from OpenAI, that parts of the COT will be able to be extracted, and for a particularly simple and uncontroversial question, all of it.

Edit: changed my mind. They’re probably hiding it to prevent other models training on it.

@OP It would also be awkward if sometimes the CoT was shared, but not other times (due to IP laws or controversial material). The CoT text isn't very useful to the user on its own, so it makes sense that they'll never share it intentionally.

How would we know that such leak was actually verbatum?

@AlekseyVoropaev I'm not sure. I think it would be a mixture of many people replicating it, some popular experts saying it happened, and OAI failing to deny it. If I understand right, system prompt leaks in the past have followed similar lines.

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