Will Unity fully revert their new "Runtime Fee" policy by the end of September?
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Today we found out that Unity is introducing a disasterous "Runtime Fee" policy.

Will they walk it back and reverse this descision?

At the end of the month if they have not announced a reversal of the policy this market resolves NO.

Otherwise at the end of the month this market resolves YES.

Clarification from the comments:
"The key thing is that whatever they do it has to feel like a total walkback and not just a slight downgrade / sidegrade into something PR viable. At a minimum no installation/runtime fees before we even need to think about it."

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/unity-to-start-charging-fee-pegged-to-game-installs

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DavePanfilo avatar
Dave Panfilopredicts YES

I guess I got newbie baited by the inconsistent/changing details, but it's play money so I'm not too upset. Could the OP give an example of Unity having a new revenue-boosting policy that resolves to Yes? Like, no install fee but some other new charge?

2 replies
SneakySly avatar
SneakySly

@DavePanfilo A rev share model like Unreal is not a runtime fee. I also object that the details meaningfully changed. Literally the description said "reverse this decision" and that has not happened.

LukeHanks avatar
Luke Hankspredicts NO

@DavePanfilo Ask before you bet.

ThomasS avatar
Thomas Ssold Ṁ31 of YES

Sold all, since the title and description just seeem inconsistent. 'walk back' and the description are very open to interpretation.

3 replies
SneakySly avatar
SneakySly

@ThomasS What would be a non inconsistent title in your eyes? I think the spirit of this market has always been upfront from day 1.

ThomasS avatar
Thomas S

@SneakySly "Will Unity fully reverse their new "Runtime Fee" policy by the end of September" sounds more like the description.

The description doesn't describe walking back. It describes a full reversal.

SneakySly avatar
SneakySly

@ThomasS I was thinking those are the same, and reversal was in the original description. I'll edit the title for further clarity though thanks.

HenryE avatar
HenryEpredicts YES

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-18/unity-overhauls-controversial-price-hike-after-game-developers-revolt

This says self reported install numbers and a cap of 4% of revenue above $1 mil

roma avatar
Romapredicts YES

Only a total reversal counts, or if they make changes most people including the Mega Crit studio are happy about would count to?

1 reply
SneakySly avatar
SneakySly

@roma Total reversal.

HenryE avatar
HenryEbought Ṁ100 of YES

@SneakySly would be good to clarify in the description as you did in the comments that a simple change to the terms of the install fees is not enough to resolve this market to yes. It would have to completely get rid of install fees. But let's say they changed it to rev share, does that still count?

SneakySly avatar
SneakySly

@HenryE Good point I will update the description!

I think the key thing is that whatever they do it has to feel like a total walkback and not just a slight downgrade / sidegrade into something PR viable. At a minimum no installation/runtime fees before we even need to think about it.

caseyyano avatar
Casey Yanopredicts YES

I tried my best to influence this outcome lol

not tellingsold Ṁ52 ofNO
nottelling2ccc avatar
not telling

@nottelling2ccc The backlash to this has gotten so extreme that I think Unity might seriously consider walking this back. Though I don’t think it would repair much trust at this point…

1 reply
Stralor avatar
Pat Scott🩴predicts NO

@nottelling2ccc yep, fuck em. I've cancelled my current project of two years

jskf avatar
jskfpredicts NO

They're gonna change it to a fee per hour played in the first 2 weeks and I'm gonna bankrupt your company.

nottelling2ccc avatar
not tellingpredicts NO

Another relevant statement (censorship mine):

4 replies
AngolaMaldives avatar
Angola Maldivespredicts NO

@nottelling2ccc Check the market creator's profile 😛

nottelling2ccc avatar
not tellingpredicts NO

@AngolaMaldives Yeah, I could have mentioned that the market creator is part of MegaCrit.

jskf avatar
jskfpredicts NO

Where was this posted btw

Noyabought Ṁ100 ofNO
NoyaV avatar
Noya

FYI "On September 6, 2023, John Riccitiello, President and CEO of Unity Software Inc (NYSE:U), sold 2,000 shares of the company."

Edit: Apparently many others had done this, meaning the CEO's selling stocks is not a particularly relevant note.