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Thanks for trading everyone! Sorry for the delay, other news kept breaking. For the final controversial options, my ruling is that saying Trump was correct about something is not the same as saying he was intelligent so that option resolves to NO. The attack on judges option seemed too vaguely phrased to me to fully justify either resolution, so I resolved it to N/A.

ping @mods

Could you resolve the following options, please? - These are uncontroversial and @ManifoldPolitics stated that you are allowed to resolve in the comment down below. Thanks to @PatrickMcCann, who has linked the transcript (https://www.c-span.org/video/?537186-1/fmr-pres-trump-sen-jd-vance-campaign-grand-rapids-mi). These are easy to prove by simply using the search function. (You need to expand every section beforehand.)

NO

• Trump describes his VP with the word "nice"

• Trump describes his VP with the word "loyal"

• Trump refers to his previous VP, Mike Pence, by name

• Either Trump or VP say "conservative values"

• Trump says the phrase "best people"

YES:

• Someone says anything about China

• Trump or VP say anything about Kamala Harris

ping @Joshua Reminder: Please resolve the other options when you have time.

And this one NO, too. (Her name is Usha Vance.)

• VP is married and says their spouse's name

thanks Lion for your work on helping with resolution - I've resolved the ones in your list (cc: @Joshua @ManifoldPolitics)

@shankypanky @Joshua @ManifoldPolitics Some further non-controversial ones:

NO

• Trump says the name "Melania"

YES

• Trump or VP say the words "Biden" or "Democrat(s)"

• It lasts longer than Trump’s announcement of Mike Pence (41 minutes)

The first and the second one are easy to prove from the transcript, and the third one is easy to prove by checking any recording of the speech (the speech lasted over 1.5h).

I'd argue that everything apart from "VP says anything about Trump being intelligent" and "Donald Trump makes an unrelated attack on a judge or other legal official involved in one of his cases during the announcement" are also non-controversial, but if the resolver wants to do proper due diligence that is of course fine.

@shankypanky Thank you 🧡

@sanyero Yeah, I forgot those three 🙃. The other ones are cases where you'd need to watch or read the full speech (which is close to 2 hours) to resolve them, and I don't know how many mods did that. Sometimes it's better to stay on the safe side with mod resolutions. But Joshua has resolved all of them by now, so it's done 🥳

When can we expect these to resolve?

@ManifoldPolitics Would be nice to free up my mana with resolutions. When do you think you'll get around to listening to the full thing? Otherwise we can resolve all the negatives like Trump not calling Vance "loyal" at least.

I got called off to other obligations mid speech yesterday so gotta rewatch, will try to do that later today.

Any mods that watched are also welcome to resolve anything uncontroversial.

@ManifoldPolitics "on every single one of those issues, Joe Biden was wrong and Donald j Trump was right. even though he was a real estate developer in New York, he knew instinctively what the country needed and how to put the interests of the citizens of the country first"

Transcript:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?537186-1/fmr-pres-trump-sen-jd-vance-campaign-grand-rapids-mi

“Knew instinctively” is imbuing Trump with some sort of innate patriot judgment, not a high IQ. The words intelligent, smart, or any other synonyms were not used. Politicians frequently comment on judgment rather than intelligence, so as not to evoke feelings about education level and nerdiness. Trump is actually unusual in that he talks about IQ a lot (as a vibes based personal opinion, not as something he actually understands).

Instinctive awareness of things is a form of intelligence

Also it says "anything", intentionally drawing it as broad. If you were to somehow take the comments as saying he is unintelligent, it still resolves yes.

Source https://kasanoff.com/blog/2020/5/18/intuition-is-the-highest-form-of-intelligence#:~:text=But%20if%20you%20take%20a,clear%20understanding%20of%20collective%20intelligence.

By this standard, any discussion of decisions is a discussion of intelligence.

Vance contrasts Trump's decision making ability with Biden, saying on every issue he was right because of his intuition ability

Lacking an elaboration from the question creator in advance, I can't know whether that broad of a definition of intelligence would be the intent. Some people consider intelligence and intuition at odds philosophically. The blog post is taking a contrarian viewpoint. That doesn't mean it's wrong, but it does mean it's subjective and not obivous or universal for those to be considered the same thing.

To use your language, "innate Patriot wisdom" is indeed a type of intelligence. I see you changed your phrasing to avoid conceding the argument

By the way, even judgment, the ability to come to sound conclusions is considered a form of intelligence

Wisdom and intelligence are different stats in D&D, but if we're going to be edit police then I think I'm fine with waiting for a third party to resolve or 50/50 or whatever. Have a good one.

@Kraalnaxx transcript here

https://www.c-span.org/video/?537186-1/fmr-pres-trump-sen-jd-vance-campaign-grand-rapids-mi

Only says Ohio once

Nope, he says it once each time he speaks, for a total of two.

@june I think this resolves YES, back patting isn't the same as a handshake.

@Kraalnaxx VP only mentioned Ohio once (he doesn't represent Michigan)

It happened once per appearance. He said "southern Ohio" in the main speech, and mentioned the state again when introducing Trump later. So twice overall.

Haven't gotten around to watching the whole thing yet. In this appearance, did Vance mention Ohio twice?

didn't realize he had a speech before introducing Trupm

There was a LONG break in between, for sure.

Not my market, so not up to me I to decide. I leave that to @ManifoldPolitics