Will you guess the entity in less than 100 questions?
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I have an entity in my mind. You can ask a question so that i have to answer Yes or No or NA (not applicable/not known/undefined, etc).

Before answering each question i will throw a dice:

1-4: I answer the truth.

5: I have to lie.

6: I can answer strategically (I pick Yes or No whichever would mislead most).

Resolves Yes if i see the word in the comments.

Resolves No if i have answered 100 questions or the closing date is reached.

*If i don't know the answer to the question i will use my best judgement.

*I will answer keeping general (popular) case in mind. If the entity was apple, then i could answer truthfully YES to both "is it red?", "is it green?".

*I do not answer questions about the dice or the word which is assigned to the entity.

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predicted YES

@KyleWan Thanks! This is more than double what I lost in this market.

predicted NO

Why not making Managrams instead ? I can take the money even if I wasn't helping. (I resend it back to you, so you can send it to them)

predicted YES

aww good try everyone

Imagine a similar market style, but you can pay 100 mana to ban someone from asking questions :P

@Jingliu Imagine saboteur paying me 200 mana to ban 2 most active Yes holders.

@KongoLandwalker "Who wishes to fight must first count the cost" - Sun Tzu, The Art of War 😉

Next time, let’s do a word like “Cat”

@BenjaminShindel Or "conCATenation"

@KongoLandwalker Or "CATheterization"

predicted YES

@Jingliu Or "CATion"

@cloudprism Or "FloccinaucinihilipilifiCATion"

Unless we got unlucky somewhere, I totally think we would have had this one if ppl didnt waste questions. So sad </3

The entity was quaternion. Using ctrl+f I now see, that it was mentioned as a part of bruteforce copypaste which i didn't bother reading (as i promised previously) and didn't see (resolution criteria),

I do not think the game was completely ruined by sabo. Jifekh used time-spacing and Yes side had time to insert a bigger portion of usefull questions. Some sabo questions commited didn't even have a suitable formt to be answered.

From the creation I hoped to see whether Yes side would find their own methods to fight sabo or just be faster. That ws the idea of the market.

But after seeing the hypothesis making and probability calculations I am now interested in a not confrontational question: how big % of lies is managable in such a game? To answer the new question more strict rules (like https://manifold.markets/KongoLandwalker/will-you-guess-the-entity-in-less-t#wiXiNsprrEFmdoGqGZxB ) will be applied in future markets.

*I like how the idea of "manifold" looked like an easter egg and caused jump to 50%.

*Would be interesting to see how many answers turned out to be lies, but I will not spend time on that.

@KongoLandwalker wow, tricky. I think @KyleWan asked a lot of the right questions, especially about maths and the 1800s-1900s. It is interesting that there were unlucky streaks near the beginning, when it was suggesting the topic was sports and the time period was ancient. @KyleWan https://manifold.markets/link/GmfgeEjn <3

predicted YES

@Jingliu nah I don't need it

Here's mana for ppl who helped:

https://manifold.markets/link/vyD8HRlc

predicted YES

@Jingliu If you didn’t like that I sniped that, lmk and I’ll return it. 😇

predicted YES

@KongoLandwalker FWIW I didn’t know what a quaternion is. 🙈 Thanks for creatively, fairly, and thoughtfully running this game!

predicted YES

well, what was the word?

predicted NO

Some propositions for the next one :
1) People should ask a question about the entity for it to resolves YES.
2) People can only ask X questions, where X is "YES shares"/10. So we reduce the most obvious kind of collisions (of a small YES holder and a big NO holder), but it also prevents players with no stake in the game to ask too much questions.
3) Given 2), people should only ask question in top comments, and write how much questions they already asked (for convenience).
4) Question should be 50 words max.
5) Only 5 questions by day by players.
6) A hash of the correct answer with some salt.

predicted YES

@dionisos Isn’t #1 obvious? Good suggestions btw.

predicted NO

@oh
The rule was just : "Resolves Yes if i see the word in the comments." for this one.
An explanation of why in this comment :
https://manifold.markets/KongoLandwalker/will-you-guess-the-entity-in-less-t#XcB2IMvbgjeOm05Xj8dQ

predicted YES

@dionisos Ah, I parsed the sentence weirdly