Will Oppenheimer and Barbie perform historically well at the domestic box office on opening weekend?
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Specifically, will Barbie and Oppenheimer break the current pareto frontier for the top 2 movies weekend domestic gross sales on their opening weekend?

The current pareto frontier is depicted here:

And the data presented in a table:

For example, if both movies open with a box office equivalent to The Little Mermaid ($95.5 M) this market would resolve YES (just barely sneaking in the top left corner!). If one opens at $95M and the other opens at $85M, this point would not surpass the frontier and the market would resolve NO.

The box office data will be sourced from the Domestic tab at https://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/

If Barbie or Oppenheimer change their release date such that they do not open on the same day this market will resolve ambiguously.

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predicted YES

Hey @JacobWood , if you have the xls still handy can you show how weird the graph looks now?

@parhizj Considerably bumped out!

predicted YES

@JacobWood A pretty historic weekend :)

predicted YES

Will Barbenheimer be a footnote now in history books about nuclear war?

predicted NO

Thanks @JacobWood for this kind of market using the Pareto Front! Learned something and enjoyed the guesswork made easier with the image chart!

predicted NO

And thanks to @parhizj and @wustep for additional analysis and data.

@SirCryptomind It was fun, I'm glad it got some traction!

predicted NO

@JacobWood Hope we can do it again!

predicted YES

given my profit graph these days it feels good to have called this! esp as a non-film buff just going on subjective sense of how much people were talking about barbenheimer

predicted NO

Orange Dot is with the numbers shown.

predicted NO

I see 155, 80.5 which puts us squarely in historic territory for a YES resolution. I will resolve when the numbers on Box Office Mojo are no longer marked as estimates.

predicted NO

So far.....

@SirCryptomind Not sure how they know todays number already, unless it is an estimate. These numbers include the premier day.
Without premier + Including the (alleged) projected numbers for today:

Barbie = $132,700,000
Oppenheimer = $48,690,000

predicted YES

@SirCryptomind I had the same question, either those include presales or they have a crystal ball

predicted NO

@parhizj Do we know if the premier gross numbers count for this market?

predicted YES

@parhizj it's just estimates.

Btw, @SirCryptomind , to be clear, this market is probably going to include preview sales as part of "opening weekend", both since it's the convention and also because boxofficemojo concretely does.

predicted NO

@chilli I figured so. I just do not recall seeing any direct clarification from the creator of the market. But understand it is included in day 1 total anyways.

predicted NO

@SirCryptomind It has been a wild ride

predicted YES

@SirCryptomind preview numbers typically count for opening weekend gross, yes

predicted YES

@jeremiahsamroo So this is essentially confirmation that the market resolves yes.

predicted NO

@jeremiahsamroo Just a heads up that the creator has the largest NO position and bought NO at 98%. I don’t know them, so for all I know they’ll resolve fairly. Just a heads up.

Indeed it seems they will resolve fairly despite their NO position. Kudos to them!

@NicoDelon hmmm thanks for that

predicted YES

Love this market idea :)

Did some maths for a similar market -- https://manifold.markets/chilli/how-much-will-barbenheimer-make-in#iTubX5Sq2RIQJyypuBsN

Barbie is at 70M, Oppenheimer at 33M (for Fri + previews). Typically combined Sat+Sun sees 1-1.5x multiples of the #1 Fri release take. 1x would be (140, 66) 1.2x would be (154, 72), 1.55x would be (175, 82). Beating the (149,39) seems likely.

I did the best I could adding your scenarios to the chart in the description. (Marked in YELLOW)

predicted NO

@SirCryptomind The 150/75 seems to be the estimate most media sites have updated to firmly. So it'll be close.

predicted NO

Reddish dot = initial projection

Yellow dots = projections provided by @wustep

Black dot = current projected numbers through 07/22/2023

Purple dot = current project numbers with estimates for 07/23/2023

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