Santa Paws DAY 3: Melee Singles ALL MATCHES
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3.6kṀ33k
resolved Dec 11
Resolved
NO
Will Jmook win Set 2 against Cody Schwab? (There is another win market in comments)
Resolved
YES
Will the Audio still be scuffed/loud when they transition to the Grand Final?
Resolved
NO
Will Jmook win Set 1 against Cody Schwab
Resolved
YES
Will Cody Schwab beat Aklo?
Resolved
NO
Will KoDoRiN beat Aklo?
Resolved
NO
Will Cody Schwab beat Jmook?
Resolved
YES
Will Cody Schwab drop a game this Tournament?
Resolved
YES
Will Aklo beat Chem?
Resolved
YES
Will KoDoRiN beat Magi?
Resolved
NO
Will the Audio be fixed before the end of the Aklo/Jmook set? (if transitions to next set are loud, will resolve NO)
Resolved
YES
Will Jmook beat Aklo?
Resolved
NO
Will the Audio be fixed before the end of the Cody Schwab & KoDoRiN match? (if transitions/next match are loud, will resolve NO)
Resolved
YES
Will Cody Schwab beat KoDoRiN?
Resolved
NO
Will Professor Pro beat Magi?
Resolved
YES
Will Chem beat Panko?
Resolved
NO
Will n0ne beat Professor Pro?
Resolved
YES
Will Magi beat Frenzy?
Resolved
YES
Will Panko beat Travioli?
Resolved
YES
Will Chem beat Bbatts
Resolved
YES
Will Jmook beat n0ne?

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@Gen i want to thank you for managing this market and others in a very timely manner. My net worth grew by 2.6x off of Santa Paws markets and being confident that they would resolve quickly, so I could bet big without worrying about having my mana locked up.

@TobyBW No worries! This definitely proved a better way to run the markets

If you have any other feedback, let me know.

Two suggestions I'm passing on to the team:

  • "bet" button could be replaced by "yes"/"no" buttons so it's more obvious for new users

  • Some way to get rid of resolved answers, or toggle them to hide after x amount of time.. or whatever

    it is really ugly when you click "show more" and your whole page gets filled

@Gen I believe the multiple choice markets may have originally had Yes and No buttons. Not sure when/why it changed. There should be at least one sort that shows recently resolved first among the resolved. Either first overall or after all the active ones would be good.

Since returning to Manifold, I've been trying to not take on much risk, as earlier in the year, I lost a lot (though not to unwise risk; it was a confluence of unfortunate off-site circumstances). I've been finding it harder to profit in low-risk markets (mostly due to @Yuna). I wonder how often I will be able to have an opportunity like the Santa Paws markets, with the option to go for low-risk high-reward bets. I haven't been too successful at that in the few days since, but I also haven't been looking very hard.

What's Santa Paws? Consider putting a link in the description or something other than a link to a dashboard that doesn't have any info either.

@Gen why do twitch embeds autoplay?

change to say just Cody?

@TobyBW I was sweating for a second when they didn't reset the 3 to 0 and I thought it was a Bo7 💀

Man this arbitrage is hard between the 3 markets

Pls put Set 1 in title

@KevinZambrano ok! Thanks :D

@Gen I think it's better now.. It was never meant to be who will win the entire thing but I wasn't sure if there would be a reset/whatever so I was going to change it - I'm new to smash, I'll follow your advice!

Let me know if you want any other changes or markets added

To bet on the final winner:

@Gen love how magi is still on there with %. Anyone got enough free mana to get it to 0.1?

~70% of my net worth on manifold has been from Santa Paws lol

Cody has lost a game

@TobyBW 🤔 I thought they were the other way around on screen, I'm blind af

yes

NO

@TobyBW actually this says "next set" so not yet

@TobyBW ok now its NO lol

YES

@Gen, if you know and are able to share, how much did manifold pay for the sponsorship?

@TobyBW I can't/won't share that at this stage, but at the end of the day, it is a charity event so I'm glad it benefits a good cause. As for results, there are far less people betting than expected, but this is a new thing we're trying and I've got a lot of useful info from it.

For the people in twitch chat asking for mods to make predictions right as the casters tell them to sign up to bet on manifold, I don't know if we will ever be able to convince them to try it

Some people have signed up and bet once or not at all, then donated, which is also great! (link)

For people who have signed up and joined the betting throughout, it's great to have you! All feedback is very welcome

@Gen I will say the platform has a bit of a learning curve which is just harder to manage than twitch preds. But would be more fun if the betting closed earlier than after the match ended lol

@KevinZambrano What makes you say it would be more fun if it closed earlier?

@Gen like I can still bet on a player to win sometimes until after the match has already finished. Also idk if you could get a twitch built in app like how YT mimics twitch preds for built in accessibility.

@Gen is the twitch integration still a thing?

@KevinZambrano Yeah, that makes sense.

You can bet after the match has finished, but it doesn't hurt anyone - when you bet at the end you're only taking mana from the automated MM (the house) or from people with limit orders open.

When you place your bet your odds are fixed and you lock-in your payout, so it doesn't matter if someone raids the pool afterwards by betting the market to 100% or 0%.

On the individual markets I can close the betting before picking the winner, but in this format I can only close it if I close all the open trading, so I have to wait until I know the winner so I can resolve it YES/NO

btw - Do you prefer this format (all bets on one market page)? Or the previous one?

@TobyBW

There is a twitch bot that lets you bet using twitch chat, but it is a bit clunky and doesn't work very well unless the market is visible on screen so people can see the % etc.

@Gen Definitely all on 1 page. I did not like hunting for the current preds yesterday lol. That actually makes sense I'm cool w it in that case.

@Gen also what is the format used to make this style of question? I would like to make my own but i dont understand the poll, multiple choice etc

@KevinZambrano This is a multiple choice market with independent options. That means that each "answer" is treated as it's own Yes/No market, just grouped together on one page for ease of use.

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