What grade will Jakob Schubert propose for Project Big?
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Jakob Schubert has done the first ascent of Project Big! As far as I know he hasn't proposed a grade yet. What will he propose?

This market resolves to the first statement he makes that appears to be his considered opinion. (Some subjectivity, but I think it should be clear enough.)

If he has already proposed a grade (since climbing it) I'll resolve to that.

If he refuses to grade it for some reason I'll leave it open for a bit to see if he changes his mind but then resolve NA. "Refusal to grade" is not an acceptable answer for the multiple choice.

If you're adding new answers, please put them in French grades for consistency. In case of duplicates, I'll resolve to the first one submitted.

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He proposed 9c: https://www.instagram.com/p/CxtCl5Lo58g/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Jakob Schubert on Instagram: "B.I.G. [9c] Took me a while to sort out my thoughts about my most important ascent so far. I’d like to start with a huge shoutout to @adam.ondra for bolting this incredible line and inviting me to try it with him. It was such a cool process and in the end it does feel like a team ascent to me, since we helped each other so much and figured out the route much quicker that way. I‘d have never been able to send this beast without you, Adam and fully appreciate the effort that goes into finding and bolting such a king line 🙏 Without a doubt, B.I.G is 5 stars and I can’t wait for more people to try it! My reflections regarding the grade: When we started trying this route last year, I initially thought it could very easily be 9c, but after making a lot of progress very quickly and feeling pretty close on it after 2 weeks already, Adam and me both were pretty confident it’ll be 9b+. But somehow we tried a lot more and didn’t make much progress and in hindsight I don’t even think we were actually that close, because we were mostly struggling to stick the crux move and believed to be in for the send once that happens. Knowing how my attempts unfolded this season puts things into a different perspective, as I stuck that move four times without sending. My reference for 9b+ is Perfecto Mundo which I sent in about 3 weeks of work and which felt way easier to me than B.I.G. The only other guy who tried B.I.G. a lot is Adam and I’m happy he shared all his opinions with me which definitely helped me draw my conclusions. I felt at a point where I had found the most efficient way possible for me, the whole route was worked out perfectly and I didn’t see any room for improvement. So all that it came down to was my physical & mental shape which I think are very good right now. Given the current information that I have and considering Adam’s opinion, it feels right to propose 9c and I’m looking forward to see what time will tell. You can find some more specific thoughts on my profile on @thecrag_worldwide Anyways, the one thing I know for sure is that it will always be one of my most memorable ascents ❤️ Photo by @alpsolut.pictures and @moritz.klee"
10K likes, 152 comments - jakob.schubert on September 27, 2023: "B.I.G. [9c] Took me a while to sort out my thoughts about my most important ascent so far. I’d..."

@JohannesKoch thank you

How exciting! :)

I've updated my guess downwards slightly after watching the video. I feel like if you're successfully doing it in such damp conditions you must have a bit of margin, and if it's 9c, surely you shouldn't have much if any margin.

@Fion Agreed but from my watch I don't think any of the crux sections were wet, only the part after the crux which was easy enough regardless? I could be wrong I didn't pay careful attention to the video.

Love markets like this! Schubert has only climbing 1 9b+ before I think, and though he made comments about it possibly being 9c at the end of the day he climbed it quickly enough that I think it's less likely he'll think it's 9c than 9b+. I doubt any other grade is likely (9b+/c maybe?) given how long it took him though.

@Weepinbell yeah, it would be pretty bold to propose 9c having only done one 9b+. But it probably is harder than Perfecto Mundo.

I don't really know whether "/" grades are popular at the moment. I think some climbers prefer to commit to a single grade.

@Fion (of course, Seb Bouin proposed a 9c having never done a 9b+ so who knows?)

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